their view, we made it clear they changed their view. that is why i said we will get to the bottom of this. >> jon: well, considering the lack of media attention that the embassy attack generally got, we talked about on this program before, were you surprised that was the first question? >> i was surprised. then i thought, gee, this will be a pretty good debate and case of moderating by martha but she failed to make that point they knew that night september 11th it was a terrorist attack, not a mob. it was one thing to ask, the day before, more vice president we saw that the state department was getting realtime video feeds. she let biden getting away, intelligence community told us that. with no pressing follow-up whatsoever. >> jon: one wonders how many votes the obama-biden will get.